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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1464
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 15 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1464
-
- Today's Topics:
- 10-Codes (with 36/37 fixed)
- 6-m Transverters
- [Frequencies in use: a FAQ?]
- ARRL's callsign admin position (2 msgs)
- help pl encode/decode
- Kenwood TR-7850 2m gear
- Mac Plus Upgrade + PK-900 ?
- Sony 2010? (2 msgs)
- W3EAX World Wide Web Server
- Yaesu FT-530 receiver problem
-
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- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 11 Dec 93 05:11:45 GMT
- From: olivea!isc-br!tau-ceti!comtch!opus-ovh!bmork@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: 10-Codes (with 36/37 fixed)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Originally posted 9DEC93. This version fixes a 10-36/10-37 error.
- Source of information is an old promotional card from Electra Company.
-
- 10-1 Unable copy--change location 10-51 Wrecker needed
- 10-2 Signal good 10-52 Ambulance needed
- 10-3 Stop transmitting 10-53 Road blocked at ...
- 10-4 Acknowledgement (ok) 10-54 Livestock on highway
- 10-5 Relay 10-55 Intoxicated driver
- 10-6 Busy--stand by unless urgent 10-56 Intoxicated pedestrian
- 10-7 Out of service 10-57 Hit and run (F, PI, PD)
- 10-8 In service 10-58 Direct traffic
- 10-9 Repeat 10-59 Convoy or escort
- 10-10 Flight in progress 10-60 Squad in vicinity
- 10-11 Dog case 10-61 Personnel in area
- 10-12 Stand by (stop) 10-62 Reply to message
- 10-13 Weather--road report 10-63 Prepare make written copy
- 10-14 Prowler report 10-64 Message for local delivery
- 10-15 Civil disturbance 10-65 Net message assignment
- 10-16 Domestic problem 10-66 Message cancellation
- 10-17 Meet complainant 10-67 Clear for net message
- 10-18 Complete assignment quickly 10-68 Dispatch information
- 10-19 Return to ... 10-69 Message received
- 10-20 Location 10-70 Fire alarm
- 10-21 Call ... by telephone 10-71 Advise nature of fire
- 10-22 Disregard 10-72 Report progress on fire
- 10-23 Arrived at scene 10-73 Smoke report
- 10-24 Assignment completed 10-74 Negative
- 10-25 Report in person (meet) ... 10-75 In contact with
- 10-26 Detaining subject, expedite 10-76 En route
- 10-27 (Drivers) license information 10-77 ETA (Estimated Time Arrival)
- 10-28 Vehicle registration information 10-78 Need assistance
- 10-29 Check record for wanted 10-79 Notify coroner
- 10-30 Illegal use of radio 10-80 Chase in progress
- 10-31 Crime in progress 10-81 Breatherlizer report
- 10-32 Man with gun 10-82 Reserve lodging
- 10-33 EMERGENCY 10-83 Work school xing at ...
- 10-34 Riot 10-84 If meeting ... advice T
- 10-35 Major crime alert 10-85 Delayed due to ...
- 10-36 Correct time 10-86 Officer/operator on duty
- 10-37 (Investigate) suspicious vehicle 10-87 Pickup/distribute checks
- 10-38 Stopping suspicious vehicle 10-88 Advise present telephone# of ...
- 10-39 Urgent--use light, siren 10-89 Bomb threat
- 10-40 Silent run--no light, siren 10-90 Bank alarm at ...
- 10-41 Beginning tour of duty 10-91 Pick up prisoner/subject
- 10-42 Ending tour of duty 10-92 Improperly parked vehicle
- 10-43 Information 10-93 Blockade
- 10-44 Request permission to leave 10-94 Drag racing
- patrol ... for ... 10-95 Prisoner/subject in custody
- 10-45 Animal carcass in ... lane at ... 10-96 Mental subject
- 10-46 Assist motorist 10-97 Check (test) signal
- 10-47 Emergency road repairs needed 10-98 Prison/jail break
- 10-48 Traffic standard needs repairs 10-99 Records indicate wanted or stolen
- 10-49 Traffic light out at ...
-
-
- ---
- Brian Mork Internet bmork@opus-ovh.spk.wa.us (BBS 509-244-9260)
- . . . .. Amateur Radio (AX.25) ka9snf@wb7nnf.#spokn.wa.usa
- ... . . USMail 6006-B Eaker, Fairchild, WA 99011
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 14:11:57 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 6-m Transverters
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CHu4o7.407@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> alanb@sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
- >Robert Carpenter (rc@cmr.ncsl.NIst.GOV) wrote:
- >
- >: Some of the older xverters, such as the Hallicrafters HA-6, were all-tube and
- >: put out close to 100 watts. Their receive side wasn't great, being a
- >: 6CW4 Nuvistor (intermod) for rf amplifier.
- >
- >I always thought that superior strong-signal handling capability was one
- >of the ADVANTAGES of a tube-type front end. One disadvantage of a 6CW4 is
- >a noise figure worse than you can get with modern solid-state devices.
- >This is a problem on 2 meters, but not a concern on 6, where atmospheric
- >noise levels are higher.
-
- The tube *should* have less intermod, but if the static operating
- conditions aren't right, it can have severe intermod. A usual cause
- is too low a plate voltage, and/or too low a standing current.
-
- Gary
-
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | I kill you, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | You kill me, | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | We're the Manson Family | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -sorry Barney |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Dec 1993 01:52:37 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!lynx.unm.edu!dns1.NMSU.Edu!gereiswi@network.ucsd.
- Subject: [Frequencies in use: a FAQ?]
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I hope this isn't a stupid FAQ, but I would really like to get
- some information: How can I get lists of 2m/70cm frequencies used in
- certain geographical areas, along with repeater offsets and access tones?
- It would also be nice to know police, etc., frequencies.
- I'd REALLY appreciate any suggestions. The only references I
- found (at Radical Shack) didn't have offsets or anything. I am
- particularly interested in the New Mexico/Colorado area.
- Thanks in advance for the help!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 11:20:38 EST
- From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!wariat.org!mystis!dan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARRL's callsign admin position
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- kb7uv@panix.com (Andrew Funk) writes:
-
- > In article <DTD8Dc3w165w@mystis.wariat.org>,
- > >
- > >I can agree to some of what you said. United front and all. But before
- > >the ARRL desides what _all_ amateurs want, maybe they could come out of
- > >the board room and ask a few of us?
- >
- >
- > Maybe your division's director doesn't "come out of the board room", but
- > here in the Hudson Division we have a director who is responsive to the
- > membership -- and available.
- >
- > Steve Mendelsohn, WA2DHF, travels throught the division, attending club
- > meetings and hamfests. He's always asking for opinions on matters he
- > expects to come before the board, and asks for fresh ideas to bring to the
- > rest of the board.
-
- (some deleted)
-
- Andy,
-
- My point was that the ARRL _seems_ to attempt to represent _ALL_
- amateurs. NOT just ARRL members. If they choose to do that then they
- should take into consideration not only non-members but other groups
- opinions. Not make decisions or pronouncements that tend to say to the
- world "We, the ARRL are the end all to US amateurs". If you want to take
- a united front to the FCC, then do so by FIRST comming to a concensus
- with some other groups. THEN approach the FCC.
-
- Maybe the ARRL has attempted this and I am unaware of it.
-
- While the ARRL has the advantage of being large, it has the DISadvantage
- of inertia!
-
-
- --
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
- | Dan Pickersgill N8PKV | 'Pots have handles, Magazines have |
- | dan@mystis.wariat.org | Personals, Hams have Names' |
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
- | Crime in America is a thing of the PAST!!! |
- | The Brady Bill is Law. |
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 11:04:08 EST
- From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!malgudi.oar.net!wariat.org!mystis!dan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARRL's callsign admin position
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- jmaynard@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
-
- > In article <DTD8Dc3w165w@mystis.wariat.org>,
- > Dan Pickersgill N8PKV <dan@mystis.wariat.org> wrote:
- > >For the purposes of some recient proposals, I believe, W5YI represented
- > >itself as an organization (quoting a membership of all it's
- > >subscribers). And W5YI is a VEC, does he do all the work himself?
- >
- > God, that's a stretch. What does he do for his subscribers besides send him a
- > newsletter every N weeks? As for the VEC, he formed a non-profit corporation
- > for that specific purpose.
-
- Not MY stretch. It was W5YI's stretch.
-
- > >But, maybe you are right, we need a second national ham group. Anyone
- > >wanna help me start one?
- >
- > Not me; I'd rather fix the one we have.
-
- IF it is fixable. (I am not expressing an opinion one way or the other,
- insufficent data.)
-
- >
- > >I said "totally".
- >
- > And I meant what I said: the FCC was going to take some spectrum away from us
- > facts be damned. If that isn't totally adversarial, I don't know what is.
-
- It was adversarial over that ONE issue. One issue of disagreement does
- not make for a TOTALLY adversarial relationship.
-
- >
- > >Private interests had SOMETHING to do with it.
- >
- > They didn't start it, though...the FCC did, internally.
-
- Not having the exact facts at hand I will accept yours. Point conceded.
-
- > >Jay, I honestly hope that our relationship with the FCC is not as bad as
- > >you say (in fact I know it is not from the dealings our area hams have
- > >with the FCC). If it were, Amateur Radio would be lost.
- >
- > The difference there is that the local FCC types are generally sympathetic to
- > ham radio...but it's not them that makes policy: it's the ones in Washington,
- > and it's _those_ folks who have decided that ham radio isn't worth screwing
- > with. They are the ones to whom we need to present a united front.
-
- Interesting point that I could agree with in principle. In practice, I
- am not positive about that one. Let me think it over.
-
- > >I can agree to some of what you said. United front and all. But before
- > >the ARRL desides what _all_ amateurs want, maybe they could come out of
- > >the board room and ask a few of us?
- >
- > Have you told your director what you think lately?
-
- First, as I said I am not now an ARRL member. If I choose to join (again
- I am SERIOUSLY considering it) he will be pestered by me night and day.
- But as it stands right now _I_ don't have a director.
-
- Futher, I am VERY impressed by the attempt of the ARRL to reach hams by
- a lot of different means. Internet/Usenet conncetions as an example.
- GREAT work guys! Big points for you on that one.
-
- Again, the ARRL Guys I have met here have been helpfull in the
- EXTREAM!!! Thank you to ALL you guys (& gals, not to be sexist). And I
- understand that there are CompuServ addresses too. GREAT!
-
-
- --
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
- | Dan Pickersgill N8PKV | 'Pots have handles, Magazines have |
- | dan@mystis.wariat.org | Personals, Hams have Names' |
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
- | Crime in America is a thing of the PAST!!! |
- | The Brady Bill is Law. |
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 15:46:03 GMT
- From: pipex!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!gdstech!gdstech!bat@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: help pl encode/decode
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Our club has a policy of installing PL encoders for any member who
- has an older radio. Many of the guys had Kenwoods, and we
- installed the ComSpec boards quite satisfactorily. It is a
- very nice way to solve that problem.
- --
- *-----------------------------------------------------------*
- * Pat Masterson D12-25 | KE2LJ@KC2FD *
- * Grumman Data Systems | 516-346-6316. *
- * Bethpage, NY 11746 | bat@gdstech.grumman.com *
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 16:00:09 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hplntx!bob@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Kenwood TR-7850 2m gear
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have two Kenwood TR-7850 2m transceivers for sale. These are
- synthesized and output more than 40 Watts (Hi) or about 10W (Lo).
- Both are in perfect condition, in original boxes with all
- manuals/accessories. I'm asking $195 each or $375 for both.
-
- Bob
- piety@hpl.hp.com
- (415)857-4759 Voice
- (415)857-2862 FAX
- Palo Alto, California
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 15 Dec 93 08:29:15 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Mac Plus Upgrade + PK-900 ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >I can't find the Mailgroup for Macintosh users but perhaps someone here knows
- >how I might upgrade my Mac Plus from it's present 1 Mb RAM to 2.5 or 4 Mb.
- >I think it's more than just swapping SIMMS - if I recall, it involved clipping
- >some resistor ?
-
- The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous,
- any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu
- [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help.
-
- Mail articles for inclusion in the digest to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
- Send binaries to be placed in the archives to
- macgifts@sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
- Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
-
- there is a hypercardstack on info-mac with all the information you need.
- it's one of those, i dont know exactly which one.
-
- ./info/hdwr/simm-stack-352-hc.hqx
- ./info/hdwr/mac-memory-guide.hqx
-
- Gerrit.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Dec 1993 08:43:19 -0600
- From: sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!bnr.co.uk!corpgate!crchh327.bnr.ca!kharker@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Sony 2010?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CHzHAx.Dzt@nctams1.uucp>, tjenkins@pnet16.cts.com (Tom Jenkins) writes:
- |>
- |> Saw a Sony SW radio the other day. Is this radio good? Will it offer
- |> performance equal to it's price? What about battery life? I had an ealier
- |> model (2000?) that ran outta batteries fairly soon.
- |>
- |> --Tom
- |>
- |> UUCP: nctams1.navy.mil!pnet16!tjenkins
- |> INET: tjenkins@pnet16.cts.com
-
- The Sony 2010 is widely considered to be one of, if not the very best sw
- radio for under $500. For a more thorough review of the receiver, you might
- want to consult _Passport to World Band Radio 1994_ (or any other of the past
- several years.)
-
- --
- ======================================================================
- Kenneth E. Harker BNR "Any opinions expressed
- kharker@bnr.ca Richardson, Texas, USA are solely mine and do
- N1PVB (214) 684-5115 not represent BNR"
- ======================================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Dec 1993 16:18:51 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!caen!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!scotti@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Sony 2010?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Even though this has nothing to do directly with amateur radio, I
- think this is probably the best group to ask. This year I decided
- that it would be fun to make a "Merry Christmas" tree for my office
- and what I'd like to ask is that you send me the words "Merry
- Christmas" in any language. Just please tell me what the language
- is and if what you sent says "Merry Christmas", "Happy Holidays",
- "Happy New Year", or whatever appropriate phrase it is. Thanks.
-
- Scotti
- N1PUI
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 12 Dec 1993 11:11:26 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!cs.umd.edu!mojo.eng.umd.edu!tedwards@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: W3EAX World Wide Web Server
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <jfhCHvtFy.M1L@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
- >tedwards@w3eax.umd.edu (Thomas N3HAU) wrote:
- >>W3EAX, The University of Maryland Amateur Radio Club is running
- >>a World Wide Web hypertext page at URL:
- >> http://w3eax.umd.edu/w3eax.html
-
- >It works with www but not with lynx. Any idea why?
-
- I'll have to take a look at it. Pehrpas we are not as
- exacting with the HTML as we should be. It does work
- if you telnet to info.cern.ch and go to our URL (info.cern.ch
- has temporarily moved to nxoc01.cern.ch though). That
- is the WWW LineMode Browser version 1.4a.
-
- -Thomas
- N3HAU
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Dec 1993 17:34:52 GMT
- From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!boxhill.com!ariel!ken@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Yaesu FT-530 receiver problem
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CHr58y.DCB@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, ker@mtgzfs3.att.com (131P2[sfm]-k.e.roser(MT4084)1047MT) writes:
- |> Has anyone noticed a problem with their FT-530, with weak 2 meter
- |> signals having a clicking sound, something like automobile ignition
-
- Hmm. If anyone cares, mine has never exhibited this problem.
- It is serial number 2N080281 if that is useful to anyone.
-
- 73
- Ken Stamm N2TIA BBBB H H i ll ll
- (ken@boxhill.com) B B H H l l
- BoxHill Systems Corporation BBBB ooo x x HHHH ii l l
- 161 Avenue of the Americas B B o o x H H i l l
- New York, NY 10013 BBBB ooo x x H H iii lll lll
- Tel: (212)989-HILL (4455)
- Fax: (212)989-6817 S y s t e m s C o r p o r a t i o n
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 13:55:22 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <thweatt.755217435@mustang18>, <1993Dec8.123356.6473@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <2eagk2$n11@wuecl.wustl.edu>
- Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
- Subject : Re: ARRL BOOK???WHERE???
-
- In article <2eagk2$n11@wuecl.wustl.edu> jlw3@cec2.wustl.edu (Jesse L Wei) writes:
- >Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
- >: that. First and foremost they have to dumb it down to the reading level
- >: of current amateurs. It's currently at about an eighth grade reading
- >: level. And second, the simple CW transmitter construction projects included
- >
- >Wait--I don't find the handbook (1991 ed) particularly easy reading--I'm
- >definitely not at the eight grade level. OK, maybe just college, but
- >even so, that handbook isn't really that simple to read if you aren't
- >so experienced as to be an engineer or for that matter, an Advanced--
- >Granted, things like electrical theory are um. . .abbreviated, but I think
- >they are for people like me, who only have limited experience in
- >electrical networks.
-
- The concepts aren't easier. In fact they receive less in depth
- treatment now than they did in earlier works, so they are actually
- harder to understand. What I'm talking about is prose style. This
- isn't confined to the Handbook of course, US Army tech manuals have
- also had to be rewritten at a lower reading comprehension level.
- This means smaller words, shorter sentences, etc. It's not quite
- at the "See Spot run." level yet, but that's the direction.
-
- >: One of the better years for the Handbook is 1962. That's the edition to
- >: which I refer most often. It uses bigger words and more complex sentence
- >: structure, but it should be accessable to someone who was a tenth grader
- >: in 1962, or to current college graduates. It includes more ambitious
- >
- >Are these current college graduated assumed to have graduated in a techincal
- >field. i.e. What if the graduate is a graduate in the humanities or
- >natural sciences??????
-
- The assumption is that they have a grasp of the English language. Even
- college graduates today often have smaller vocabularies, and grasp of
- sentence structure and internal logic, than 8th graders of 20 years ago.
- This in turn leads to lower comprehension levels which then requires much
- more verbose text to get across the same point that would have been grasped
- easily a couple of decades ago.
-
- >IMHO that 2.25 inch thick manual is plenty to start with.
-
- Oh, don't get me wrong, there's still a wealth of information in the
- Handbook. I just find it a less usable reference than in earlier years.
- As an example of what I consider a good handbook, I'd recommend the
- _Bosch Automotive Handbook_. It's clear, concise, and complete in a
- 2.54 cm thick pocket book. The important concepts, data, and forumlae
- needed for effective automotive design are all in there. And they are
- easily accessed thanks to excellent organization, indexing, and layout.
- A radio handbook as well written and edited need be no larger.
-
- With our current Handbook, I find myself having to apply random searches
- to access particular information, and then having to slog through too
- much verbage to get to the point. And despite all that verbage, fundamental
- questions go begging. For example, nowhere in the current Handbook will you
- find a coherent explanation of *why* an antenna radiates, though there's a
- chapter on antennas. I'd say that's pretty fundamental to amateur radio
- wouldn't you? Maxwell deserves better, and so do we.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | I kill you, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | You kill me, | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | We're the Manson Family | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -sorry Barney |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 14:47:13 GMT
- From: csus.edu!netcom.com!greg@decwrl.dec.com
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <jchappel.80.755465269@sanders.lockheed.com>, <gregCHtM06.AzD@netcom.com>, <2ea07c$7ts@hpscit.sc.hp.com>s.edu
- Subject : Re: Scratchi, January, 1960
-
- In article <2ea07c$7ts@hpscit.sc.hp.com> garhow@hpubmaa.esr.HP.COM (Garry Howard) writes:
- >
- >--
- >In article <gregCHtM06.AzD@netcom.com>, greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
- >|> In article <jchappel.80.755465269@sanders.lockheed.com> jchappel@sanders.lockheed.com (Joel Chappell) writes:
- >|> >
- >|> >Greg - This is so typical of liberal behavior. Yes it was the best without
- >|> >really flaming yer butt....
- >|>
- >|> Well, gawwwlleeee. My butt's hottern' a leaky ol' still. What is this,
- >|> the 'Hampshire Hillbillies?
- >|>
- >
- >Well Greg it finally comes out. You obviously have some prejudices of your
- >own. You just did the very thing your are berating everyone else for. I
- >just happen to be from the south and I am offended that you mock our speech
- >patterns and imply that we are all just a bunch of ignorant hillbillies.
-
- Well, Garry, as I told you in the e-mail you sent me, a good part of my
- up-jerkin', as they say, was in a part of the West where that's pretty
- standard speech. As an 'owner' of that dialect, I can use it when I
- damn well please.
-
- As I also pointed out to you, it was a response to the 'flaming yer butt'
- slang, in any case. Which is why I asked about the "Hampshire Hillbillies."
-
- I have tried to carry on an intelligent conversation with you, Garry;
- but you're going to have to decide whether that conversation takes
- place publicly or privately.
-
- On the other hand, why am I justifying myself to someone who carries on
- two conversations, one on the net and one in e-mail, and who also sees
- fit to share private e-mail (Tony's) with someone else (me) apparently
- without permission?
-
- Greg
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